Legends Live Forever - Fan Forum for The Legend of Prince Valiant & All Things Legendary
« MERLIN SERIES II (Speculation Thread ) »

Welcome Guest. Please Login or Register.
Dec 14, 2009, 5:57pm

[Home] [Help] [Search] [Login] [Register]



Legends Live Forever - Fan Forum for The Legend of Prince Valiant & All Things Legendary :: Legends Live Forever :: Merlin :: MERLIN SERIES II (Speculation Thread )
« Page 3 of 4 » Jump to page   Go    [Search This Thread][Send Topic To Friend] [Print]
AuthorTopic: MERLIN SERIES II (Speculation Thread ) (Read 197 times)
Lacey le Fay
Quester
****
member is offline

[avatar]

Ideas don't stay in some minds very long because they don't like solitary confinement.



Joined: Jul 2009
Gender: Female
Posts: 66
Re: MERLIN SERIES II (Speculation Thread )
« Reply #30 on Oct 1, 2009, 11:32am »
Yes, it is kind of a new concept to have Mordred portrayed as a young child, having no parent relationship to Morgana or Arthur. (Lindsey, your guess as to why is probably accurate, though.) Why do the Merlin creators want Morgana, and Mordred to have this "bond" between them? [image] Is it so later on Morgana will want to bring Mordred to the throne over Arthur? Not that I really think the series will ever get that far, no doubt it would be canceled before we reach that point. ::) ~Lacey~
« Last Edit: Oct 1, 2009, 9:14pm by Lacey le Fay »Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
[image]
Outback Aussie
Squire
***
member is offline

[avatar]

The real trouble with reality is that there's no background music.



Joined: Feb 2009
Gender: Male
Posts: 34
Re: MERLIN SERIES II (Speculation Thread )
« Reply #31 on Oct 1, 2009, 9:08pm »

Oct 1, 2009, 11:32am, Lacey le Fay wrote:
Why do the Merlin creators want Morgana, and Mordred to have this "bond" between them? [image] Is it so later on Morgana will want to bring Mordred to the throne over Arthur? ::) ~Lacey~


I suspected from the indications it has to do with them being Creatures of The Old Religion more than anything. Just as The Great Dragon told Merlin they were *kin*. I get the feeling while many of the baddies on the series 'choose' to use magic, the others like Merlin, Morgana, Mordred are 'chosen' and are of themselves magic, so they hold a special bond. Besides Morgana, Merlin also could hear Mordred's telepathic speech. That's my reckoning. :)
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
Uther Bendragon
Legendary Knight
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

“Wit is a sword; it is meant to make people feel the point as well as see it.”



Joined: Sept 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 104
Re: MERLIN SERIES II (Speculation Thread )
« Reply #32 on Oct 1, 2009, 9:13pm »
Nice little ole explanation there, Terry. :D I surprisingly agree with you (yeah, I know first time ever huh?). Another joint theory from the creator's perspective could be they didn't want to completely dismiss the mother/son connection Mordred/Morgana often share in legend, even though they chose to make un-related in a blood relation sense. So, maybe Morgana is a mother figure to creepy little Mordred, and Mordred's bond to Morgana through magic draws her to a motherly affection for the weird little druid orphan.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
Princess MacKenzie
Quester
****
member is offline

[avatar]

I'm writing my first fictional novel... It's titled: 'My Autobiography'



Joined: Sept 2008
Gender: Female
Posts: 82
Re: MERLIN SERIES II (Speculation Thread )
« Reply #33 on Oct 1, 2009, 9:21pm »
We know Mordred still would ultimately kill Arthur as was foreseen by the GD, however I'm not so certain we can guarantee Morgana will go to The Dark Side, and try to put Mordred on the throne. Not that I expect the series to last that long, only it's interesting to consider future fates. Morgana is often a gray area character in legend, neither good nor bad, I prefer seeing her in that light on Merlin. I usually like to point out that Morgana is one of the queens who sees the dying Arthur safely to The Isle of Avalon. <--- Clearly not the black hearted wicked witch some versions try to pin her as. ;D
« Last Edit: Oct 1, 2009, 9:22pm by Princess MacKenzie »Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
[image]
“Be as a bird perched on a frail branch
that she feels bending beneath her,
still she sings away all the same,
knowing she has wings.”
Sky-Gon Jinn
Legendary Knight
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

Laughter is the shortest distance between two people.



Joined: Feb 2009
Gender: Male
Posts: 157
Re: MERLIN SERIES II (Speculation Thread )
« Reply #34 on Nov 4, 2009, 11:39pm »
Enjoyed reading your post, Leah on your take of Morgana. You shared some good thoughts, especially concerning Morgana aiding Arthur to the Isle of Avalon.

Since this is the speculation thread, I thought I'd post here, that I'm feeling frustrated about this 2nd season, and not feeling like we're making very much progress in terms of deepening the characters. :Depressed: Here's some of what I like to see happen with the remaining episodes of Merlin's 2nd season.

I) Let Morgana's discoveries of her gifts have more screen time. Show us how she is learning to use her powers. What did see find out from her time with the druids? Is she making headway in learning to control her powers? Couldn't she find out about Merlin's little secret?

II) Let Arthur, and Merlin friendship grow a bit more, and show some evidence of real hard earned built trust between them. Arthur should be reaching the point now, of being able to say "I believe you, Merlin", and he should start asking for Merlin's advice. Isn't Merlin going to be Arthur's sage? Ah yes, no real question there, so start showing us how much he is beginning to see Merlin's worth.

III) Give Gwen & Arthur some real time together! For me the one episode, "The Once and Future Queen," wasn't enough. Arthur acted very smart in dodging duties, when he wanted to be with Sophia in 1st season. I don't think he's trying hard enough with Gwen. Arthur isn't simple, so let him come up with ways to see Gwen beyond the Castle's hallways.

This it was comes to mind first. How does everyone else feel? :blink: What would you like to see happen in the remaining episodes of Merlin?
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
[image]
Sully of The 7 Seas
Legendary Knight
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

I can levitate birds but nobody cares.



Joined: Sept 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 318
Re: MERLIN SERIES II (Speculation Thread )
« Reply #35 on Nov 5, 2009, 10:21am »
In full agreement with everything you listed Skylar. I sincerely wish you could turn in a few story outlines and mail them in to save the show (what a shame it is already finished filming :( ).
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
[image]
Uther Bendragon
Legendary Knight
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

“Wit is a sword; it is meant to make people feel the point as well as see it.”



Joined: Sept 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 104
Re: MERLIN SERIES II (Speculation Thread )
« Reply #36 on Nov 6, 2009, 3:59pm »

Nov 4, 2009, 11:39pm, Sky-Gon Jinn wrote:

This it was comes to mind first. How does everyone else feel? [image] What would you like to see happen in the remaining episodes of Merlin?


I'd say anything expected, something to break the mold, so to speak. The predictability of 'Merlin' is getting weary. As a creative development it's the responsibility of every episode script to take viewers 'somewhere', and change characters little by little. Pulling the same gag every week, and doing more or less the same thing isn't the road to a gripping series.

With the way things are going you can easily picture 20 years from now middle age Merlin is still zapping magical baddies and Arthur is still calling him 'idiot', and who knows if we even have a Round Table by then..... because slowly the repetitive nature of the plots is taking us away from the more compelling source material.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
Princess MacKenzie
Quester
****
member is offline

[avatar]

I'm writing my first fictional novel... It's titled: 'My Autobiography'



Joined: Sept 2008
Gender: Female
Posts: 82
Re: MERLIN SERIES II (Speculation Thread )
« Reply #37 on Nov 9, 2009, 8:02pm »
So it seems next week we're meeting a female character named Morgause.... here's some wacky & weird trivia:

In legend {I know you all know this!} Morgause and Morgana are full blooded sisters, and half sisters of Arthur. In 'Merlin' Morgana and Morgause are not sisters. Katie McGrath plays Morgana, and Emila Fox will be playing Morgause. In an up-coming BBC mini-series tilted The Queen Emila Fox and Katie McGrath will be playing Princess Margaret, and Princess Elizabeth who are sisters, unlike the new revision on Morgause and Morgana who they also play.

Confused yet? :cyclops:
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
[image]
“Be as a bird perched on a frail branch
that she feels bending beneath her,
still she sings away all the same,
knowing she has wings.”
Jordan Skywalker
Administrator
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

I dream of a better tomorrow... where chickens can cross roads and not have their motives questioned



Joined: Sept 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 530
Re: MERLIN SERIES II (Speculation Thread )
« Reply #38 on Nov 9, 2009, 8:04pm »
You know, that piece of trivia is so confusing it makes sense. Thanks for brightening my day, Leah. I'm just glad they get to be sisters in something... since they don't look alike..... now, I'm being confusing, huh? :nuts:
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
[image]
Princess MacKenzie
Quester
****
member is offline

[avatar]

I'm writing my first fictional novel... It's titled: 'My Autobiography'



Joined: Sept 2008
Gender: Female
Posts: 82
Re: MERLIN SERIES II (Speculation Thread )
« Reply #39 on Nov 9, 2009, 8:08pm »
Anytime Jordan, happy you enjoyed it. :glad:
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
[image]
“Be as a bird perched on a frail branch
that she feels bending beneath her,
still she sings away all the same,
knowing she has wings.”
Caliburn Rider
Legendary Knight
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

You don't need to know all the answers. No one is smart enough to ask you all the questions.



Joined: Sept 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 298
Re: MERLIN SERIES II (Speculation Thread )
« Reply #40 on Nov 9, 2009, 8:38pm »
I just read where there is going to be a "Vivian" (played by actress Georgia Moffett) on the show, but she isn't a Lady of the Lake, instead she's King Olaf's daughter. A jester named Trickler puts a spell on Arthur so he falls madly in-love with Olaf's daughter. It's unclear if she is in fact a baddie herself, but it is curious that they have the famous viking paired as dad to The Lady of The Lake.

I'm really baffled what they're planning to do with Excalibur now. With Nimueh and Vivian used, what name remains? Looks to me like they're skipping over having a Lady of The Lake at all.

Odd choice, but then again the writers are weird at times.
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
[image]
Sully of The 7 Seas
Legendary Knight
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

I can levitate birds but nobody cares.



Joined: Sept 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 318
Re: MERLIN SERIES II (Speculation Thread )
« Reply #41 on Nov 9, 2009, 8:50pm »
I'm annoyed. They deliberately keep twisting the characters around to the point of being unrecognizable. That isn't telling the story for a new generation, that's changing the story needlessly to satisfy their own ideas. I suppose next we will be treated to meeting Sir Gawain, who is nothing more than a kitchen servant boy of 12, who is quickly sliced to bits by the disgusting Green Knight (complete with horns, pitchfork and bad breath... yes, lots of references in the script about that of course ::). Pretend my prediction is absurd, but don't come crying when it comes to pass.

By the way Leah, funny about the sisters. I'm surprised BBC didn't want to change Princess Margaret, and Princess Elizabeth being sisters in The Queen. I mean, it seems like why not? After all, it might make more sense to have Margaret be an only child. With BBC, you never quite know, do you? :P
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
[image]
Ken-A-Dale
Legendary Knight
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.



Joined: Sept 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 389
Re: MERLIN SERIES II (Speculation Thread )
« Reply #42 on Nov 9, 2009, 8:52pm »
I don't know Sully, that's too much of a clever connection, even with having Gawain as a kitchen brat victim. I doubt the writers are creative enough to merge that much of one story together. They actually specialize in dissecting the original stories. Like splitting Pellinore and The Questing Beast. It was Bedivere who got taken down, remember? ::)
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
[image]
Music Box Faerie
Legendary Knight
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

Embroidery: Favored pastime of ladies. Swordplay: Favored pastime of heroines.



Joined: Sept 2008
Gender: Female
Posts: 194
Re: MERLIN SERIES II (Speculation Thread )
« Reply #43 on Nov 9, 2009, 8:53pm »
LoL @ Sully about Queen Elizabeth and Princess Margaret.

They're having two female characters, 1. a druid girl who Merlin will kiss/fall-in-love with. 2. The daughter of some king named Olaf who is part of love potion #9 trick on Arthur. So why not have named Merlin's one time love interest Vivian, and name the Norse King's daughter Freya? At least then the legends would be sorted properly Arthurian V.S. Viking lore. Easy solution, why the mix up. ::)
« Last Edit: Nov 9, 2009, 8:54pm by Music Box Faerie »Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
Brave Little Taylor
Legendary Knight
*****
member is offline

[avatar]

I'm never wrong. I once thought I was wrong, turns out, I was mistaken.



Joined: Feb 2009
Gender: Male
Posts: 243
Re: MERLIN SERIES II (Speculation Thread )
« Reply #44 on Nov 9, 2009, 8:56pm »
Whoa, Lindsey... You make sense. :faint: The writers can't afford to do that, they're volunteers. Or at least I think that's the case. :hide:
Link to Post - Back to Top  IP: Logged
[image]
« Page 3 of 4 » Jump to page   Go    [Search This Thread][Send Topic To Friend] [Print]

Click Here To Make This Board Ad-Free


This Board Hosted For FREE By ProBoards
Get Your Own Free Message Boards & Free Forums!